The Best Player In Baseball

by ~ January 27th, 2011 at 9:25 am

My mother is British and my dad has always been more of a basketball guy, so that I wasn’t raised a baseball fan from birth shouldn’t come as great surprise.  I had to find the game and the Seattle Mariners at least somewhat on my own.  I wouldn’t say I was a Mariner fan until 1996 when I was eight years old.

I have a vague memory of the 1995 one game playoff, specifically Luis Sojo and the “everybody scores!” play.  I like to think that it was televised down in southwest Washington and that my family– new to the northwest– watched it because it was kind of a big deal.  I fear that it’s a manufactured memory, however, born out of my desire to be connected to the most important Mariner team in franchise history and made possible by the dozens and dozens of times I’ve seen the highlight.

Point being, my first firm memories of Major League Baseball and the Mariners came in 1996.  That being the year Alex Rodriguez began his assault on the league, he naturally became my favorite.  Given what I’ve since learned about the young A-Rod and especially what’s gone on with him since he played his last season in Seattle, it would be nice to be able to look back and say that Ken Griffey Jr. was my favorite Mariner like the rest of the children of the ’90s.

To me, as my favorite, A-Rod was the Best Player In Baseball.  I wasn’t alone, of course.  Many people bestowed that label on him given his explosive all-around game.  That he was doing it from the shortstop position was the clincher for many if not most.  Never mind Barry Bonds. 

The way I remember it, A-Rod held the Best Player In Baseball title until Albert Pujols proved he had staying power and began wrangling it away sometime around 2006, becoming the definitive Best Player In Baseball by 2008 or so.  Pujols continues to hold the title, but at age 31 he’s due for a challenger in the next couple years.

This is something I think about from time to time– the progression and passing of the torch of the Best Player In Baseball– mostly in terms of A-Rod to Pujols to whoever is next.  In thinking about it on this insomniatic Thursday morning I couldn’t decide who the Best Player In Baseball was before A-Rod.  Naturally, Griffey was my best guess.  I couldn’t really come up with anyone for the 1980s.  So I rolled out of bed and did my best to figure it out with my good pal FanGraphs.

What I did was rank players by WAR over 5-year arcs.  I don’t know if this is the best way to do it– I’m not much of a stats guy, after all– nor do I know if someone has already done something like this.  Either way, I felt like 5 years would show the rise and fall of great players while awarding year in, year out consistency, which I figure is a requirement for the Best Player In Baseball.

Start End 1st 2nd 3rd
2006 2010 Albert Pujols Chase Utley Matt Holliday
2005 2009 Albert Pujols Chase Utley Alex Rodriguez
2004 2008 Albert Pujols Alex Rodriguez Chase Utley
2003 2007 Albert Pujols Alex Rodriguez Andruw Jones
2002 2006 Albert Pujols Alex Rodriguez Andruw Jones
2001 2005 Alex Rodriguez Albert Pujols Jim Edmonds
2000 2004 Barry Bonds Alex Rodriguez Todd Helton
1999 2003 Barry Bonds Alex Rodriguez Jason Giambi
1998 2002 Barry Bonds Alex Rodriguez Sammy Sosa
1997 2001 Barry Bonds Jeff Bagwell Alex Rodriguez
1996 2000 Barry Bonds Jeff Bagwell Ken Griffey Jr.
1995 1999 Barry Bonds Jeff Bagwell Ken Griffey Jr.
1994 1998 Barry Bonds Ken Griffey Jr. Jeff Bagwell
1993 1997 Barry Bonds Ken Griffey Jr. Jeff Bagwell
1992 1996 Barry Bonds Ken Griffey Jr. Frank Thomas
1991 1995 Barry Bonds Frank Thomas Ken Griffey Jr.
1990 1994 Barry Bonds Ken Griffey Jr. Frank Thomas
1989 1993 Barry Bonds Rickey Henderson Cal Ripken Jr.
1988 1992 Barry Bonds Rickey Henderson Cal Ripken Jr.
1987 1991 Wade Boggs Barry Bonds Rickey Henderson
1986 1990 Wade Boggs Rickey Henderson Barry Bonds
1985 1989 Wade Boggs Rickey Henderson Ozzie Smith
1984 1988 Wade Boggs Rickey Henderson Cal Ripken Jr.
1983 1987 Wade Boggs Cal Ripken Jr. Rickey Henderson
1982 1986 Cal Ripken Jr. Rickey Henderson Wade Boggs
1981 1985 Rickey Henderson Mike Schmidt Gary Carter
1980 1984 Mike Schmidt Rickey Henderson Robin Yount
1979 1983 Mike Schmidt George Brett Robin Yount
1978 1982 Mike Schmidt George Brett Gary Carter
1977 1981 Mike Schmidt George Brett George Foster
1976 1980 Mike Schmidt George Brett George Foster
1975 1979 Mike Schmidt George Brett George Foster
1974 1978 Mike Schmidt Joe Morgan Rod Carew
1973 1977 Joe Morgan Mike Schmidt Rod Carew
1972 1976 Joe Morgan Johnny Bench Pete Rose
1971 1975 Joe Morgan Johnny Bench Willie Stargell
1970 1974 Joe Morgan Johnny Bench Pete Rose
1969 1973 Johnny Bench Joe Morgan Sal Bando
1968 1972 Johnny Bench Hank Aaron Carl Yastrzemski
1967 1971 Carl Yastrzemski Hank Aaron Roberto Clemente
1966 1970 Carl Yastrzemski Ron Santo Hank Aaron
1965 1969 Ron Santo Carl Yastrzemski Hank Aaron
1964 1968 Ron Santo Willie Mays Carl Yastrzemski
1963 1967 Willie Mays Ron Santo Hank Aaron
1962 1966 Willie Mays Hank Aaron Frank Robinson
1961 1965 Willie Mays Hank Aaron Frank Robinson
1960 1964 Willie Mays Hank Aaron Mickey Mantle
1959 1963 Willie Mays Hank Aaron Eddie Mathews
1958 1962 Willie Mays Hank Aaron Mickey Mantle
1957 1961 Mickey Mantle Willie Mays Hank Aaron
1956 1960 Mickey Mantle Willie Mays Hank Aaron
1955 1959 Mickey Mantle Willie Mays Ernie Banks
1954 1958 Mickey Mantle Willie Mays Eddie Mathews
1953 1957 Mickey Mantle Duke Snider Eddie Mathews
1952 1956 Mickey Mantle Duke Snider Stan Musial
1951 1955 Stan Musial Duke Snider Jackie Robinson
1950 1954 Stan Musial Jackie Robinson Duke Snider
1949 1953 Stan Musial Jackie Robinson Larry Doby
1948 1952 Stan Musial Jackie Robinson Ted Williams
1947 1951 Ted Williams Stan Musial Ralph Kiner
1946 1950 Ted Williams Stan Musial Ralph Kiner
1945 1949 Ted Williams Stan Musial Lou Boudreau
1944 1948 Stan Musial Lou Boudreau Ted Williams
1943 1947 Stan Musial Lou Boudreau Tommy Holmes
1942 1946 Stan Musial Lou Boudreau Tommy Holmes
1941 1945 Lou Boudreau Bill Nicholson Stan Musial
1940 1944 Lou Boudreau Ted Williams Joe Gordon
1939 1943 Ted Williams Joe Gordon Charlie Keller
1938 1942 Joe DiMaggio Ted Williams Joe Gordon
1937 1941 Joe DiMaggio Jimmie Foxx Hank Greenberg
1936 1940 Joe DiMaggio Jimmie Foxx Mel Ott
1935 1939 Jimmie Foxx Mel Ott Charlie Gehringer
1934 1938 Lou Gehrig Jimmie Foxx Charlie Gehringer
1933 1937 Lou Gehrig Jimmie Foxx Charlie Gehringer
1932 1936 Jimmie Foxx Lou Gehrig Charlie Gehringer
1931 1935 Lou Gehrig Jimmie Foxx Mel Ott
1930 1934 Lou Gehrig Jimmie Foxx Babe Ruth
1929 1933 Babe Ruth Jimmie Foxx Lou Gehrig
1928 1932 Babe Ruth Lou Gehrig Jimmie Foxx
1927 1931 Babe Ruth Lou Gehrig Rogers Hornsby
1926 1930 Babe Ruth Lou Gehrig Rogers Hornsby
1925 1929 Babe Ruth Rogers Hornsby Lou Gehrig
1924 1928 Babe Ruth Rogers Hornsby Lou Gehrig
1923 1927 Babe Ruth Rogers Hornsby Harry Heilmann
1922 1926 Babe Ruth Rogers Hornsby Harry Heilmann
1921 1925 Babe Ruth Rogers Hornsby Harry Heilmann
1920 1924 Babe Ruth Rogers Hornsby Tris Speaker
1919 1923 Babe Ruth Rogers Hornsby Tris Speaker
1918 1922 Babe Ruth Rogers Hornsby George Sisler
1917 1921 Babe Ruth Rogers Hornsby George Sisler
1916 1920 Tris Speaker Ty Cobb George Sisler
1915 1919 Ty Cobb Tris Speaker Eddie Collins
1914 1918 Ty Cobb Tris Speaker Eddie Collins
1913 1917 Ty Cobb Tris Speaker Eddie Collins
1912 1916 Tris Speaker Eddie Collins Ty Cobb
1911 1915 Ty Cobb Eddie Collins Tris Speaker
1910 1914 Ty Cobb Eddie Collins Tris Speaker
1909 1913 Ty Cobb Eddie Collins Tris Speaker
1908 1912 Ty Cobb Honus Wagner Eddie Collins
1907 1911 Honus Wagner Ty Cobb Nap Lajoie
1906 1910 Honus Wagner Nap Lajoie Ty Cobb
1905 1909 Honus Wagner Nap Lajoie Sherry Magee
1904 1908 Honus Wagner Nap Lajoie Frank Chance
1903 1907 Honus Wagner Nap Lajoie Frank Chance
1902 1906 Honus Wagner Nap Lajoie Frank Chance
1901 1905 Honus Wagner Nap Lajoie Bill Bradley
1900 1904 Honus Wagner Nap Lajoie Elmer Flick
1899 1903 Honus Wagner Nap Lajoie Jesse Burkett
1898 1902 Ed Delahanty Honus Wagner Jesse Burkett
1897 1901 John McGraw Jesse Burkett Ed Delahanty
1896 1900 Jesse Burkett Ed Delahanty John McGraw
1895 1899 Hughie Jennings Ed Delahanty Jesse Burkett

Based on this table, I might put the progression of Best Player In Baseball something like this:

  • Honus Wagner
  • Ty Cobb
  • Babe Ruth
  • Lou Gehrig
  • Joe DiMaggio
  • Ted Williams (Lou Boudreau and Stan Musial in his WWII absence)
  • Mickey Mantle
  • Willie Mays
  • (Do Santo, Yaz or Bench belong here?)
  • Joe Morgan
  • Mike Schmidt
  • Wade Boggs
  • Barry Bonds
  • Albert Pujols

Most of these guys are definitively known as the best players of their respective generations, so it looks like we did good.  A few don’t look right, however.  I wouldn’t have ever guessed Boggs for the late 80s/early 90s over Henderson or Ripken.  Bench feels like a better pick than Morgan even though Morgan had more time at the top.

There are a lot of true greats on this list that were continual runners up.  Many have cases for Best Player In Baseball over a period of time if you’re using something besides WAR.  Musial was an odd case given WWII’s influence on the results.

Some thoughts and observations:

  • Add this to the Bagwell for Hall of Fame file.  While you have it open, Santo too.
  • Bonds and Ruth both showed up 13 times at the top spot.
  • About half a dozen teams had two players show up in the top three, but only the Big Red Machine managed to nab three of three, and they did it twice with Morgan, Bench and Rose.
  • Bonds appears most in the table (15).  Ruth is second (14) and followed by Musial (12), Aaron (12), Wagner (11), Cobb (11), Hornsby (11), Gehrig (11), Mays (11),  Speaker (10), Foxx (10), Henderson (10)
  • I need to brush up on my pre-1950 baseball history.

Let’s hear it.  How would your Best Player In Baseball passing of the torch go?  What players are you most surprised to see on the table?  Do you find any of the results particularly interesting?  Who do you see being the next Best Player In Baseball?


  • Anonymous

    I think you got it pretty right and I’ve been watching the game since 1947. The Big Red Machine with Bench, Morgan and Rose were special. Yaz is worth a mention for the years he played. I’m taken by the fact that there are no pitchers worthy of note. (Although technically Ruth was a great pitcher before he started hitting homers.) No doubt Pujols is now and for a few more years. Given his youth and current production Felix might be the most valuable at present and could have enough WAR to claim a spot in the future.
    BTW my Mum was English too and she became a big Brooklyn and LA Dodgers fan and my wife is English and was a big baseball fan before we hooked up. We live in England since I retired in 2002 and watch every game broadcast in our time frame.

    • Anonymous

      Pitchers weren’t including…. should have made that more clear. Best (Position) Player In Baseball.

  • Anonymous

    Here’s one totally subjective way to look at it. Shortstop is generally considered the most difficult position, the one that requires the most athletic ability and highest level of baseball skill. I get this from Bill James and others.

    In his Historical Baseball Abstract, James examined the skills and accomplishments of oldtimers and tried to match them with comparable modern players. It’s pretty fascinating, and I recommend it to everyone.

    For example, as a kid I watched Duke Snider all through his prime years (yeah, I’m old). When James discussed Snider, his modern “most comparable” at the time was Dale Murphy. That was, of course, before the emergence of Josh Hamilton, who reminds me of Snider much more than Murphy did. If you want to know how good Snider was, think 10 years of prime Josh Hamilton, that’s about right.

    One player for whom James could find NO comparison, modern or otherwise, was Honus Wagner. Contemporary accounts all claimed that Wagner’s range, hands, and throwing arm were far beyond those of his contemporaries. No shortstop matched his hitting statistics — Wagner and Ty Cobb were the only players who ever led their leagues in stolen bases and slugging percentage in the same season — FOUR times!

    Wagner was without peer as baseball’s all-time all-around shortstop until Alex arrived on the scene. Alex is THE only shortstop who can reasonably be compared with Wagner, even in that both of them played their prime years at SS but the rest of their careers at other positions.

    I saw Williams and Musial (prime DiMaggio was just before my time), Willie, Mickey, and the Duke, Jackie Robinson, Frank Robinson, Dick Allen, Mike Schmidt, Johnny Bench, Rickey Henderson, Barry Bonds, Albert Pujols, all of them since the mid-1950s. I have no hesitation in saying Alex Rodriguez is the best all-around player, offensively, defensively, and running the bases, who I have ever seen. Others’ opinions might vary, but that’s mine.

    • Anonymous

      I think you may be right about A-Rod being the best position player since Honus Wagner, like you even I’m not old enough to have seen him play. Snider was a long time favorite of mine, along with Country Slaughter. I saw all the ones you mentioned and they were very, very good. My personal favorite of all time was Sandy Koufax.

  • Anonymous

    WordPress ate half my post this morning, causing me to recreate the last portion of the post. Here are a few bits that I realize were left out.

    *Ruth tops the list two years before he even became a full-time hitter. That good.
    *Cobb, Collins and Speaker held down the top 3 for 7 consecutive seasons, easily the longest such streak.
    *Ruth and Hornsby were the longest running 1-2 (8 seasons). Wagner and Lajoie came in 2nd at 7 seasons. A few other combos had 5.

  • Anonymous

    Great idea. Helps lend some additional perspective in judging overall talent and contributions to the game.

    Of note for me:

    *Who is Sal Bando? I don’t think I’ve ever heard the name. Lou Bordreau? How does a guy this dominant go so unmentioned in casual historical conversations?
    *Gary Carter was better than I’ve given him credit for being. Same w/ Joe Morgan.
    *From ’56 to ’64 it was the Mays, Aaron, Mantle show.
    *For some reason I’ve always wanted to believe Aaron was better than Mays. Guess I’ll knock off that crap.
    *Speaking of bridesmaids, George Brett must have hated looking up at that sneer.
    *Steroids rule the top of the list. Bagwell, Giambi, Edmonds, Jones, Sosa… would these guys be top ten let alone top three if it weren’t for PEDS?

    • Anonymous

      C’mon… at least separate the guys who were merely suspected for steroids from the guys who were busted. Bagwell is clear thus far, and I think (but am not positive) that Edmonds and Jones are as well.

      Otherwise, I like the thoughts you shared.

      • Anonymous

        If you don’t appreciate libelous statements on your blog, I can totally respect that. I’ll even remove the comment.

        But… I have very little doubt they were artificially enhanced. They follow the pattern like clockwork.

        • Anonymous

          What evidence do you have to back up your claims? Baseless speculation, like Murray Chass and his ludicrous claims that Piazza had to be a steroid user because he had back acne?

          As Keith Law so eloquently put it: “You are entitled to your own opinions but you are not entitled to your own facts.” If you’re going to make wild accusations like that, have reasons and evidence for it. Fitting them in to “the pattern” is silly, and can be done with a wide variety of ball players. Especially since it was such a wide variety of players who have tested positive, not just the power hitters of the era.

          • Anonymous

            I will respectfully disagree with what you deem necessary evidence. You can call it whatever you want, but as a human being capable of making judgments I reserve the right to do the simple math. The change in body type, skyrocketing production, and subsequent injury fallout is reproduced again and again during this era. Many of the players were busted. Many never were. Could we not tell before the reports and verdicts? I could fill out a list thirty names long of guys who were never busted that I’m pretty darn convinced used PEDS. If you want to wait for a photograph of a needle breaking the skin and a pharmacist’s note detailing the contents, be my guest.

  • Anonymous

    Great idea. Helps lend some additional perspective in judging overall talent and contributions to the game.

    Of note for me:

    *Who is Sal Bando? I don’t think I’ve ever heard the name. Lou Bordreau? How does a guy this dominant go so unmentioned in casual historical conversations?
    *Gary Carter was better than I’ve given him credit for being. Same w/ Joe Morgan.
    *From ’56 to ’64 it was the Mays, Aaron, Mantle show.
    *For some reason I’ve always wanted to believe Aaron was better than Mays. Guess I’ll knock off that crap.
    *Speaking of bridesmaids, George Brett must have hated looking up at that sneer.
    *Steroids rule the top of the list. Bagwell, Giambi, Edmonds, Jones, Sosa… would these guys be top ten let alone top three if it weren’t for PEDS?

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/S7VQIE7CMKE4IH3MI4YUV7GNTY dennis

    Wow, talk about a never ending subject. I’m not even sure the definition of what constitudes the Best Player In Baseball could be agreed upon. But to go along with the flow I think your chart is good for generally looking at players. But no way Boggs (or Ichiro – just to stir the pot) even belong in this discussion. My vote is for Babe Ruth because he COMPLETELY dominated the game (hang-over and all) and set the standards, which we still judge players today. If steroids never got involved in baseball, Ruth would stand out even more than he does today. Hands down, Ruth.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FRCGJLMPGXGSQG2T57BA2S3UJA Rick

      The question wasn’t “who’s the best ever,” it was “who was the best of his day.” And yes, Boggs _was_ incredible in the 80′s: a 3B with decent fielding ability who you could write in for 200ish hits, 100ish walks, and 40ish doubles every year from 1983-1991. There’s a reason the man’s in the Hall of Fame. As for Ichiro, why are you even bringing him up? He doesn’t appear anywhere on the chart. Best _leadoff_ hitter in baseball at the moment, yeah, but best overall? I don’t think anybody’s ever claimed that.