Bradley vs. Saunders?

by ~ February 22nd, 2011 at 8:42 pm

I get caught up in the countdown to pitchers and catchers as much as the next baseball fanatic, but every year it turns out to be a letdown.  The same thing that happens the days following pitchers and catchers also occurs and pretty much every day in Peoria, Arizona– men employed by Major League Baseball teams play catch, take a little BP, get haircuts– but it isn’t covered by the press until that first reporting day.  I appreciate the service those reporters provide, but I’ll appreciate it more if I’m ever able to get my expectations in check.  I don’t know what it is I’m hoping for; I just know it’s more.

Thankfully, Spring Training is in full swing, which means a few more meaningful stories.  One of the early developments in camp is the competition in left field between Michael Saunders and Milton Bradley.

Manager Eric Wedge, via Geoff Baker:

Wedge won’t place a favorite on the left field job. He told us he doesn’t think Saunders needs to prove he can play every day in spring training.

The team instead will see what stage Saunders is at and determine at that point how he can best help the team. Bradley will get a shot at the every day job in left, especially if he can return to the form he displayed during his last “contract” year in 2008.

“I think it’s safe to say that if he’s healthy, he can have the greatest impact out there for us,” Wedge said.

I’m sure many of viewed Saunders as the favorite coming into camp.  There were — are — plenty of reasons that lead to that assumption, including Bradley’s abysmal 2010, his offseason arrest and the Mariners’ need to figure out if Saunders is part of their next contender.

I don’t disagree with Wedge. A truly healthy Bradley would be a decent bet to outproduce Saunders at the plate without giving up much if anything in the field.  That would be best for the team’s chances in 2011.  It wouldn’t, however, be the best move for 2012 and beyond.

But while Wedge’s comments surprised and intrigued some people, I’m not sure how much has changed since the offseason.  Baker, again, in a follow up post:

Wedge was asked where Bradley fits into his plans.

“I see him in left field and DH both,” he said. “Jack (Cust) is obviously going to get the bulk of time at the DH spot. But with Milton being a switch-hitter, that helps him.”

If Bradley does enough to make the team and if Saunders does the same, I suspect we’ll see an arrangement similar to the one we’ve been expecting all along.  That is, Saunders in left, Cust at DH, and Bradley drifting between as a part-time platoon partner.  Bradley would have plenty of at bats if he were able to pick up (say) a quarter of the DH at bats and a similar fraction of the left field at bats, more or less depending on how good he is this season.

If Bradley comes alive and forces his way into a more prominent role it could get interesting in a hurry.  Does Saunders get locked into bench spot as he continues down the Gross/Gerut/Langerhans career path?  Or do they send him to a crowded outfield situation in Tacoma to continue working on his swing with Alonso Powell?  Neither one does much to help us determine whether Saunders can be relied upon in 2012.

I like Saunders a lot.  He has outstanding physical tools and showed some previously untapped power last season.  But if the Mariners were in a good position to win I wouldn’t mind pigeon holing him into a platoon role or using him as the fourth outfielder.  I just don’t have enough faith in the swing to make enough contact, especially against lefties.  Seeing him struggle to make contact and get chewed up by lefties at detriment to the team would be tough, especially if he didn’t come out an above average left fielder.

Luckily for Saunders, I don’t think the Mariners aren’t quite at that point.  Unluckily for Saunders, I doubt that Wedge and GM Jack Zduriencik feel the same way.  This year’s squad isn’t awful, but just about everything would have to go right for them to have a shot.

Are they willing to let Saunders do some wrong?


  • http://twitter.com/200tang Diego Pena

    I think part of it is GMZ & Wedge not wanting to admit they’re going to suck and partly them not wanting to lose their jobs.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_RXYMWN523OHPR45HDDT3VA55DE Matt

    Choo…

    • http://twitter.com/THalpz Taylor Halperin

      Bless you.

  • Anonymous

    As there would seem to be a better chance Saunders will be with the team next season than Bradley I hope he out-performs him and gets most of the playing time. God forbid Bradley has a great year and they resign him!

    • Anonymous

      I would certainly hope that should Bradley somehow magically put together a productive year without any distractions, that they would trade him at the deadline rather than give him another contract. I have much more faith in Z than I did Bavasi to make the right call.

      • Anonymous

        Amen to that. I can’t really see Z resigning Bradley no matter what he does. Bavasi would have given him 4/$49MM. I wonder if Silva remembers him a Christmas?

  • Anonymous

    I would certainly hope that should Bradley somehow put together a productive year without any incidents they would find a way to move him at the deadline rather than resign him. I have more faith in Z than I did Bavasi to make the right move.

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/S7VQIE7CMKE4IH3MI4YUV7GNTY dennis

    To me – Wedge is saying to Saunders “Go win that LF spot”. At some point, Saunders has to beat someone to win the LF job. I think that time has come. At this point, I’m more worried about Saunders, Bradley, and Cust showing up to play.

  • Anonymous

    I think most would agree that a productive Michael Saunders is the best case scenario in left for the M’s in 2011. But he does need to win the job, not in spring training but in the regular season. Michael found good power last year, and his speed and defense will carry him as long as he can stay north of a 250 BA. I think Wedge saying that there is no favorite just means he isn’t going to award the playing time until he sees the performance of Milton Bradley and Saunders in the regular season. I’m not sure if Michael Saunders has had enough at bats to prove that he can’t hit ML level left handed pitching. That being said the best candidate for 4th outfield/backup DH would be a right handed batter. Bradley should be given the chance to fill that role. I hope Greg Halman can show better plate discipline and cut way back on his strikeouts to give him strong consideration for the right handed bat role, but he probably should play every day in Tacoma to begin the year.

  • Anonymous

    I think most would agree that a productive Michael Saunders is the best case scenario in left for the M’s in 2011. But he does need to win the job, not in spring training but in the regular season. Michael found good power last year, and his speed and defense will carry him as long as he can stay north of a 250 BA. I think Wedge saying that there is no favorite just means he isn’t going to award the playing time until he sees the performance of Milton Bradley and Saunders in the regular season. I’m not sure if Michael Saunders has had enough at bats to prove that he can’t hit ML level left handed pitching. That being said the best candidate for 4th outfield/backup DH would be a right handed batter. Bradley should be given the chance to fill that role. I hope Greg Halman can show better plate discipline and cut way back on his strikeouts to give him strong consideration for the right handed bat role, but he probably should play every day in Tacoma to begin the year.

  • Anonymous

    I don’t give a rip about Bradley. The team either believes Saunders has a shot at being an every day major-leaguer, or they don’t. If he does, he should be the starter for the M’s and Bradley should sit. You don’t make that decision based on a player’s ST performance.

    I guess you can bring in veterans to “push” a young player, but it’s just for show. My feeling is Saunders is the guy unless he performs absolutely horrendously in spring, and Bradley is here to be a bench player. I would absolutely not be of the mind that Bradley can win the left field job by having a better spring than Saunders.