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		<title>By: Jon Shields</title>
		<link>http://www.proballnw.com/03-2009/jakubauskas-vs-batista/comment-page-1/#comment-5546</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 04:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If it happens, it happens. I just hate the thought of Olson starting.&quot;

Maybe so, but the thought of Batista starting is about as pleasant as the thought of Michael Moore in a wet t-shirt contest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If it happens, it happens. I just hate the thought of Olson starting.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe so, but the thought of Batista starting is about as pleasant as the thought of Michael Moore in a wet t-shirt contest.</p>
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		<title>By: Lonnie</title>
		<link>http://www.proballnw.com/03-2009/jakubauskas-vs-batista/comment-page-1/#comment-5544</link>
		<dc:creator>Lonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 04:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon sez:
&quot;As far as emergency starters go, Garrett Olson is a solid backup plan and is definitely better than Batista right now.&quot;

It would have to be a horrible emergency for Olson to get a start.  The bullpen is where he belongs as a decent loogy.

If it happens, it happens.  I just hate the thought of Olson starting.

Lonnie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon sez:<br />
&#8220;As far as emergency starters go, Garrett Olson is a solid backup plan and is definitely better than Batista right now.&#8221;</p>
<p>It would have to be a horrible emergency for Olson to get a start.  The bullpen is where he belongs as a decent loogy.</p>
<p>If it happens, it happens.  I just hate the thought of Olson starting.</p>
<p>Lonnie</p>
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		<title>By: SABR Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.proballnw.com/03-2009/jakubauskas-vs-batista/comment-page-1/#comment-5542</link>
		<dc:creator>SABR Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In looking at who is making starts for the Angels, it would appear that they will be forced to go with Dustin Moseley and Mike Loux after Adenhart to fil the bottom of their rotation.  Moseley is probably about the same caliber of arm as RRS (i.e. not that great but not embarrassing) and Adenhart is showing some progress this spring with his command, so he may be ready to join the rotation anyway...but it&#039;s not like this is a rotation that should scare the Mariners.  The winner of the AL West may come away with fewer than 88 wins this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In looking at who is making starts for the Angels, it would appear that they will be forced to go with Dustin Moseley and Mike Loux after Adenhart to fil the bottom of their rotation.  Moseley is probably about the same caliber of arm as RRS (i.e. not that great but not embarrassing) and Adenhart is showing some progress this spring with his command, so he may be ready to join the rotation anyway&#8230;but it&#8217;s not like this is a rotation that should scare the Mariners.  The winner of the AL West may come away with fewer than 88 wins this year.</p>
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		<title>By: SABR Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.proballnw.com/03-2009/jakubauskas-vs-batista/comment-page-1/#comment-5541</link>
		<dc:creator>SABR Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone taken a hard look at Anaheim and Oakland&#039;s rotations?  Both of these clubs are seriously hurting for starting pitching.

Anaheim, after losing Lackey and Ervin Santana (neither for longer than one month, most likely, but you never know), their opening-month rotation is:

Joe Saunders (who was severely lucky on balls in play last year and is, at best, Jarrod Washburn - the younger version)
Jered Weaver (who is fast fading and losing his appeal)
...
...
...
...
um...Nick Adenhart?
uhhhh....????

And Oakland&#039;s rotation after the bad news about the Duke is:

Dana Eveland
Sean Gallagher
Dallas Braden
Josh Outman
Gio Gonzalez

Wow.  I&#039;m terrified.

Compare that to the Mariners, who despite recent news that Brandon Morrow is a wuss still have this for a rotation:

Felix Hernandez
Erik Bedard
Carlos Silva
Jarrod Washburn
Ryan Rowland-Smith

with unterrible back-up plans like Greg Olson (not &quot;good&quot;...but as a fallback he won&#039;t embarrass you any more than Dallas Braden does) and Chris Jakubauskas.

I know there are a lot of questionmarks about the offense...but...guys, seriously...look at Anaheim and Oakland&#039;s offense too...

In Oakland:

CF) Rajai Davis/Ryan Sweeney
SS) Orlando Cabrera
LF) Matt Holliday (not as good as the Coors numbers look)
1B) Jason Giambi
DH) Jack Cust
2B) Mark Ellis
C) Kurt Suzuki
RF) John Buck
3B) Eric Chavez/Jack Hannahan

This is basically taking an offense that was actually worse than Seattle&#039;s last year and adding Matt Holliday instead of adding Ken Griffey...so yes...they added more than we did, but it&#039;s not like this offense will destroy the universe.

In Anaheim, you&#039;ve got this situation:

3B) Chone Figgins
2B) Howie Kendrick
LF) Bobby Abreu (OLD)
RF) Vlad Guerrero (OLD)
CF) Torii Hunter (OLD)
C) Mike Napoli/Greg Mathis
DH) Juan Rivera
SS) Erick Aybar/Maicer Izturis
1B) Kendry Morales/Robb Quinlan

This is basically the exact same team they fielded last year except replace free-swinger Garret Anderson with a guy who&#039;s incrementally better overall by way of drawing a lot more walks but playing worse defense and last year&#039;s team had an OPS+ of 96 and was middle of the pack in run scoring.

Why exactly are we thinking Anaheim is the undesputed class of this division?  And why can&#039;t the Mariners compete?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone taken a hard look at Anaheim and Oakland&#8217;s rotations?  Both of these clubs are seriously hurting for starting pitching.</p>
<p>Anaheim, after losing Lackey and Ervin Santana (neither for longer than one month, most likely, but you never know), their opening-month rotation is:</p>
<p>Joe Saunders (who was severely lucky on balls in play last year and is, at best, Jarrod Washburn &#8211; the younger version)<br />
Jered Weaver (who is fast fading and losing his appeal)<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8230;<br />
um&#8230;Nick Adenhart?<br />
uhhhh&#8230;.????</p>
<p>And Oakland&#8217;s rotation after the bad news about the Duke is:</p>
<p>Dana Eveland<br />
Sean Gallagher<br />
Dallas Braden<br />
Josh Outman<br />
Gio Gonzalez</p>
<p>Wow.  I&#8217;m terrified.</p>
<p>Compare that to the Mariners, who despite recent news that Brandon Morrow is a wuss still have this for a rotation:</p>
<p>Felix Hernandez<br />
Erik Bedard<br />
Carlos Silva<br />
Jarrod Washburn<br />
Ryan Rowland-Smith</p>
<p>with unterrible back-up plans like Greg Olson (not &#8220;good&#8221;&#8230;but as a fallback he won&#8217;t embarrass you any more than Dallas Braden does) and Chris Jakubauskas.</p>
<p>I know there are a lot of questionmarks about the offense&#8230;but&#8230;guys, seriously&#8230;look at Anaheim and Oakland&#8217;s offense too&#8230;</p>
<p>In Oakland:</p>
<p>CF) Rajai Davis/Ryan Sweeney<br />
SS) Orlando Cabrera<br />
LF) Matt Holliday (not as good as the Coors numbers look)<br />
1B) Jason Giambi<br />
DH) Jack Cust<br />
2B) Mark Ellis<br />
C) Kurt Suzuki<br />
RF) John Buck<br />
3B) Eric Chavez/Jack Hannahan</p>
<p>This is basically taking an offense that was actually worse than Seattle&#8217;s last year and adding Matt Holliday instead of adding Ken Griffey&#8230;so yes&#8230;they added more than we did, but it&#8217;s not like this offense will destroy the universe.</p>
<p>In Anaheim, you&#8217;ve got this situation:</p>
<p>3B) Chone Figgins<br />
2B) Howie Kendrick<br />
LF) Bobby Abreu (OLD)<br />
RF) Vlad Guerrero (OLD)<br />
CF) Torii Hunter (OLD)<br />
C) Mike Napoli/Greg Mathis<br />
DH) Juan Rivera<br />
SS) Erick Aybar/Maicer Izturis<br />
1B) Kendry Morales/Robb Quinlan</p>
<p>This is basically the exact same team they fielded last year except replace free-swinger Garret Anderson with a guy who&#8217;s incrementally better overall by way of drawing a lot more walks but playing worse defense and last year&#8217;s team had an OPS+ of 96 and was middle of the pack in run scoring.</p>
<p>Why exactly are we thinking Anaheim is the undesputed class of this division?  And why can&#8217;t the Mariners compete?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Shields</title>
		<link>http://www.proballnw.com/03-2009/jakubauskas-vs-batista/comment-page-1/#comment-5539</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 17:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>San Diego doesn&#039;t look like they can afford even $1M of his contract, and I think they&#039;re a smart enough organization to know that it&#039;s a push to even justify paying him that much.  

As far as emergency starters go, Garrett Olson is a solid backup plan and is definitely better than Batista right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>San Diego doesn&#8217;t look like they can afford even $1M of his contract, and I think they&#8217;re a smart enough organization to know that it&#8217;s a push to even justify paying him that much.  </p>
<p>As far as emergency starters go, Garrett Olson is a solid backup plan and is definitely better than Batista right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Lonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 15:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would seem to me that the best course of action for the team is to make every impression that Batista has made the team, then go look for a trade partner.  San Diego is dying for some SP help, and I believe they would probably take Batista off of our hands.

They probably wouldn&#039;t take on his full contract, but if they take 1/3 or even 1/2 of what is owed to Batista then that is money in the bank that can be used elsewhere.

A problem that the team has though is the thinness at the SP position.  Right now, who is our emergency starter?  If we dump Batista, our emergency starter would most likely be Andy Baldwin.

Does that put a shiver in your spine?

Anyone who believes that our emergency starter is Morrow hasn&#039;t accepted the reality of the situation with Brandon, IMHO.

Lonnie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem to me that the best course of action for the team is to make every impression that Batista has made the team, then go look for a trade partner.  San Diego is dying for some SP help, and I believe they would probably take Batista off of our hands.</p>
<p>They probably wouldn&#8217;t take on his full contract, but if they take 1/3 or even 1/2 of what is owed to Batista then that is money in the bank that can be used elsewhere.</p>
<p>A problem that the team has though is the thinness at the SP position.  Right now, who is our emergency starter?  If we dump Batista, our emergency starter would most likely be Andy Baldwin.</p>
<p>Does that put a shiver in your spine?</p>
<p>Anyone who believes that our emergency starter is Morrow hasn&#8217;t accepted the reality of the situation with Brandon, IMHO.</p>
<p>Lonnie</p>
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		<title>By: ppl</title>
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		<dc:creator>ppl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:58:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The M&#039;s have been very economical in all their moves so far this off-season. They are already poised to be the most fun to watch since they were winning 90 games a year, with a draw in Junior helping the attendance.  But Junior and the spring optimism of the casual baseball fans won&#039;t carry into May or June if they are losing, and losing because of the same goats seemingly every game. This division is weak, and even if the M&#039;s can&#039;t win it, they got a shot at being in it, after last years collapse, that would be a huge uplift. They are stuck paying Batista no matter what, so why not consider that the fact that losing is bad for their pocket-books and take the next big step towards getting out of the shadow of the BB era
and being a better ball club.  Batista played a major role in last years collapse and has not yet shown he has turned it around, the best bet to win this year and therefore draw more fans is to say bye-bye to Miguel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The M&#8217;s have been very economical in all their moves so far this off-season. They are already poised to be the most fun to watch since they were winning 90 games a year, with a draw in Junior helping the attendance.  But Junior and the spring optimism of the casual baseball fans won&#8217;t carry into May or June if they are losing, and losing because of the same goats seemingly every game. This division is weak, and even if the M&#8217;s can&#8217;t win it, they got a shot at being in it, after last years collapse, that would be a huge uplift. They are stuck paying Batista no matter what, so why not consider that the fact that losing is bad for their pocket-books and take the next big step towards getting out of the shadow of the BB era<br />
and being a better ball club.  Batista played a major role in last years collapse and has not yet shown he has turned it around, the best bet to win this year and therefore draw more fans is to say bye-bye to Miguel.</p>
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		<title>By: Mariners121212</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariners121212</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been cheering for Jakubauskas to pitch well after watching him pitch in the winter leagues where i remember him pitching well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been cheering for Jakubauskas to pitch well after watching him pitch in the winter leagues where i remember him pitching well.</p>
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