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		<title>By: Jon Shields</title>
		<link>http://www.proballnw.com/07-2009/discussion-improving-the-hr-derby/comment-page-1/#comment-6272</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, the problem with a precision hitting is that there are only a handful of guys in each generation that could do it.  Right now it would be Ichiro and... who else?  15 years ago you could have guys like Tony Gwynn and Wade Boggs in it perhaps.  But there just isn&#039;t enough guys in the big leagues that could make it into a competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, the problem with a precision hitting is that there are only a handful of guys in each generation that could do it.  Right now it would be Ichiro and&#8230; who else?  15 years ago you could have guys like Tony Gwynn and Wade Boggs in it perhaps.  But there just isn&#8217;t enough guys in the big leagues that could make it into a competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Shires</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin Shires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta point out that a &quot;precision hitting&quot; thing would be so damn hard to accomplish. In the NBA and NFL, the Point Guard and Quarterback can turn their bodies and throw the ball wherever the target is. Hitting is more based upon where the pitch is thrown. The guy could have a target in the opposite field, but have the pitcher bust him inside with stuff? That&#039;s not gonna work, I don&#039;t think.

I&#039;d like to see a fielding challenge, no matter how difficult that may be to orchestrate. I&#039;m sick of Baseball Tonight saying &quot;Oh, he&#039;s an outstanding fielder!&quot; when every defensive metric disagrees with their statements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta point out that a &#8220;precision hitting&#8221; thing would be so damn hard to accomplish. In the NBA and NFL, the Point Guard and Quarterback can turn their bodies and throw the ball wherever the target is. Hitting is more based upon where the pitch is thrown. The guy could have a target in the opposite field, but have the pitcher bust him inside with stuff? That&#8217;s not gonna work, I don&#8217;t think.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see a fielding challenge, no matter how difficult that may be to orchestrate. I&#8217;m sick of Baseball Tonight saying &#8220;Oh, he&#8217;s an outstanding fielder!&#8221; when every defensive metric disagrees with their statements.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Shields</title>
		<link>http://www.proballnw.com/07-2009/discussion-improving-the-hr-derby/comment-page-1/#comment-6266</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 18:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;href=&quot;http://wisconsinsportsblogs.blogspot.com/2009/07/play-at-your-own-risk.html&quot;&gt;Of course, there&#039;s always this.&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;How about a drinking game to make tonight&#039;s Home Run Derby tolerable:

1) Every time Boomer says &quot;Back, back, back, back...GONE,&quot; drink.
If you&#039;re not passed out yet, continue:
2) When Boomer references a different Missouri city - I.E. &quot;He hit that one to Columbia!&quot; - drink.
3) A Prince nervous cough. Drink
4) When they flash to Ozzie Smith, drink.
5) Drink when they show an All-Star pitcher right after a huge bomb and say &quot;(Fill in pitcher here) hopes he doesn&#039;t see (fill in batter) hit the ball like that tomorrow night, ha ha ha.&quot;
6) If they throw in a Lewis and Clark reference, drink double.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<href ="http://wisconsinsportsblogs.blogspot.com/2009/07/play-at-your-own-risk.html">Of course, there&#8217;s always this.</p>
<blockquote><p>How about a drinking game to make tonight&#8217;s Home Run Derby tolerable:</p>
<p>1) Every time Boomer says &#8220;Back, back, back, back&#8230;GONE,&#8221; drink.<br />
If you&#8217;re not passed out yet, continue:<br />
2) When Boomer references a different Missouri city &#8211; I.E. &#8220;He hit that one to Columbia!&#8221; &#8211; drink.<br />
3) A Prince nervous cough. Drink<br />
4) When they flash to Ozzie Smith, drink.<br />
5) Drink when they show an All-Star pitcher right after a huge bomb and say &#8220;(Fill in pitcher here) hopes he doesn&#8217;t see (fill in batter) hit the ball like that tomorrow night, ha ha ha.&#8221;<br />
6) If they throw in a Lewis and Clark reference, drink double.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: wrob4343</title>
		<link>http://www.proballnw.com/07-2009/discussion-improving-the-hr-derby/comment-page-1/#comment-6263</link>
		<dc:creator>wrob4343</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only are the back, back, back, back, gone comments lame, but the nicknames are absolutely atrocious... I don&#039;t mind the rest of the crew (OK maybe Steve Phillips can go) but Chris Berman is the worst.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only are the back, back, back, back, gone comments lame, but the nicknames are absolutely atrocious&#8230; I don&#8217;t mind the rest of the crew (OK maybe Steve Phillips can go) but Chris Berman is the worst.</p>
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		<title>By: SABR Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.proballnw.com/07-2009/discussion-improving-the-hr-derby/comment-page-1/#comment-6259</link>
		<dc:creator>SABR Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a simpler way Jon...Again, I&#039;m going to repeat my insistence that the correct format for the derby is an inning-style format.  You won&#039;t get worn out if you only have to go for three outs at a time.  Have any of you guys seen the original &quot;Home Run Derby&quot;?  That is how it was done.  I saw one between Mickey Mantle and Harmon Killebrew.  Not only was it a lot more exciting than watching today&#039;s sluggers set there and take 6 pitches...homer four times and make 10 outs all of which takes like 15 minutes...it was easier on the sluggers and the format allowed for the announcers to be talking to one of the competitors while the other was hitting, which made for some amusing trash talk.  Plus...it brings back the sense of jeopardy...it&#039;s the bottom of the 6th and final inning...Killebrew needs at least 3 home runs to stay alive, 4 to win...can he do it??  There&#039;s one!!  OOOHHH that was just short of the wall...two outs to go.  And if this one stays fair...YES...home run...one more to tie!  Weak grounder for an out...it all comes down to this!  And that&#039;s all she wrote, it&#039;s out to center but well short of the fence!

Think about it guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a simpler way Jon&#8230;Again, I&#8217;m going to repeat my insistence that the correct format for the derby is an inning-style format.  You won&#8217;t get worn out if you only have to go for three outs at a time.  Have any of you guys seen the original &#8220;Home Run Derby&#8221;?  That is how it was done.  I saw one between Mickey Mantle and Harmon Killebrew.  Not only was it a lot more exciting than watching today&#8217;s sluggers set there and take 6 pitches&#8230;homer four times and make 10 outs all of which takes like 15 minutes&#8230;it was easier on the sluggers and the format allowed for the announcers to be talking to one of the competitors while the other was hitting, which made for some amusing trash talk.  Plus&#8230;it brings back the sense of jeopardy&#8230;it&#8217;s the bottom of the 6th and final inning&#8230;Killebrew needs at least 3 home runs to stay alive, 4 to win&#8230;can he do it??  There&#8217;s one!!  OOOHHH that was just short of the wall&#8230;two outs to go.  And if this one stays fair&#8230;YES&#8230;home run&#8230;one more to tie!  Weak grounder for an out&#8230;it all comes down to this!  And that&#8217;s all she wrote, it&#8217;s out to center but well short of the fence!</p>
<p>Think about it guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Shields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The time limit doesn&#039;t work on several levels for me.

For one, it just wouldn&#039;t be fair.  Whether they pick their own guys or not, if a pitcher goes in a funk for a 5-6 pitches that guy is going to lose.  No one wants a home run contest determined by how good the BP pitcher was.  It&#039;s about the hitters.

Second, if hitters aren&#039;t allowed to be as selective they&#039;re not going to put on as great of a show.  You allow them to wait for a perfect pitch and they&#039;re going to give you a 470 foot homer.  You don&#039;t and you&#039;re going to see a bunch of 370 homers, and that&#039;s hardly an event worth watching (and I should know, because that&#039;s what the AAA derby amounted to).  

Third, the guys need to take pitches to catch their breath.  Swinging at max effort takes a lot out of you.  If you&#039;re going to force them to be on a time limit they&#039;re going to get worn out quicker, and the level of performance is going to drop.  Maybe it would be less frustrating if they just stepped out for a few seconds instead of taking pitches?  It would cut the wasted anticipation, at very least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The time limit doesn&#8217;t work on several levels for me.</p>
<p>For one, it just wouldn&#8217;t be fair.  Whether they pick their own guys or not, if a pitcher goes in a funk for a 5-6 pitches that guy is going to lose.  No one wants a home run contest determined by how good the BP pitcher was.  It&#8217;s about the hitters.</p>
<p>Second, if hitters aren&#8217;t allowed to be as selective they&#8217;re not going to put on as great of a show.  You allow them to wait for a perfect pitch and they&#8217;re going to give you a 470 foot homer.  You don&#8217;t and you&#8217;re going to see a bunch of 370 homers, and that&#8217;s hardly an event worth watching (and I should know, because that&#8217;s what the AAA derby amounted to).  </p>
<p>Third, the guys need to take pitches to catch their breath.  Swinging at max effort takes a lot out of you.  If you&#8217;re going to force them to be on a time limit they&#8217;re going to get worn out quicker, and the level of performance is going to drop.  Maybe it would be less frustrating if they just stepped out for a few seconds instead of taking pitches?  It would cut the wasted anticipation, at very least.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why can&#039;t there be a time limit while using real pitchers? The guys all pick their own BP guy anyways, so I don&#039;t see the problem with that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why can&#8217;t there be a time limit while using real pitchers? The guys all pick their own BP guy anyways, so I don&#8217;t see the problem with that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Shields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having a time limit isn&#039;t possible without using a pitching machine that&#039;s going to put the ball in the same place every time, and I&#039;m pretty sure the hitters prefer a real live arm to a machine for timing purposes.

As far as a skills competition.. the type of stuff SABR Matt mentioned.  I want to find out who&#039;s the fastest runner, strongest and most accurate arm, most powerful hitter and who has the best bat control.. stuff like that. 

I&#039;m not saying I want a skills competition-- just throwing the idea out there.  I&#039;m not sure it could be pulled off without being a bore-fest or too cheezy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having a time limit isn&#8217;t possible without using a pitching machine that&#8217;s going to put the ball in the same place every time, and I&#8217;m pretty sure the hitters prefer a real live arm to a machine for timing purposes.</p>
<p>As far as a skills competition.. the type of stuff SABR Matt mentioned.  I want to find out who&#8217;s the fastest runner, strongest and most accurate arm, most powerful hitter and who has the best bat control.. stuff like that. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying I want a skills competition&#8211; just throwing the idea out there.  I&#8217;m not sure it could be pulled off without being a bore-fest or too cheezy.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like SABR Matt&#039;s idea of precision games, both throwing and batting.  That would be a lot more fun to watch than &quot;BACK BACK BACK GONE!!&quot; or &quot;BACK GONE! wow, that thing was outta here in a second!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like SABR Matt&#8217;s idea of precision games, both throwing and batting.  That would be a lot more fun to watch than &#8220;BACK BACK BACK GONE!!&#8221; or &#8220;BACK GONE! wow, that thing was outta here in a second!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
		<link>http://www.proballnw.com/07-2009/discussion-improving-the-hr-derby/comment-page-1/#comment-6254</link>
		<dc:creator>Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1: Let the participants use aluminum bats
2: Have a time limit instead of an out limit. Watching 3-4 pitches go by before every swing is what got boring for me.  

I also love the idea of bringing up a beast from the minor leagues to take a hack at beating the big dogs.  

@ Jon, What kind of stuff would be in the skills competition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1: Let the participants use aluminum bats<br />
2: Have a time limit instead of an out limit. Watching 3-4 pitches go by before every swing is what got boring for me.  </p>
<p>I also love the idea of bringing up a beast from the minor leagues to take a hack at beating the big dogs.  </p>
<p>@ Jon, What kind of stuff would be in the skills competition?</p>
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		<title>By: SABR Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.proballnw.com/07-2009/discussion-improving-the-hr-derby/comment-page-1/#comment-6253</link>
		<dc:creator>SABR Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HR Derby is one skill...I&#039;d like to see baserunning (time from home to first, including the need to swing a bat and best throwing catchers vs. best baserunners trying to steal second), throwing arm (throwing from the outfield and trying to hit barrel targets of varying size and position for points...smaller targets are worth more as well as further targets, thus rewarding arm strength AND accuracy), and precision hitting (facing a BP pitcher, can you aim the ball at targets in the field for points).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HR Derby is one skill&#8230;I&#8217;d like to see baserunning (time from home to first, including the need to swing a bat and best throwing catchers vs. best baserunners trying to steal second), throwing arm (throwing from the outfield and trying to hit barrel targets of varying size and position for points&#8230;smaller targets are worth more as well as further targets, thus rewarding arm strength AND accuracy), and precision hitting (facing a BP pitcher, can you aim the ball at targets in the field for points).</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Shields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they should get rid of the bats and have a home run derby comprised of the best arms in the league.  My early favorite: Adam Jones! 

Speaking of which, how would the MLB do with an NFL/NBA style skills competition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they should get rid of the bats and have a home run derby comprised of the best arms in the league.  My early favorite: Adam Jones! </p>
<p>Speaking of which, how would the MLB do with an NFL/NBA style skills competition?</p>
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		<title>By: moethedog</title>
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		<dc:creator>moethedog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cancel it.  That would improve it better than anything else.

Sheeeesh...if we need a staged batting practice to enjoy the Mid-Summer Classic...then we&#039;re not MLB fans anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cancel it.  That would improve it better than anything else.</p>
<p>Sheeeesh&#8230;if we need a staged batting practice to enjoy the Mid-Summer Classic&#8230;then we&#8217;re not MLB fans anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: SABR Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>SABR Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL on the golf ball comment.

I agree on hating Rick Berman&#039;s call of the Derby.  I&#039;m not what announcer could spice it up though...the repetitive act of trying to hit home runs is a little hard to make thrilling without adding a game context.  In other words, I really think we need to switch from 10-out style to half-inning style and keep score like it&#039;s a game.  I also think it would be cool if the pitching difficulty steadily increased either from round to round or from inning to inning within each round.  Start with BP speed and gradually rev it up so they have to hit some guy throwing 95. :)  Now that would be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL on the golf ball comment.</p>
<p>I agree on hating Rick Berman&#8217;s call of the Derby.  I&#8217;m not what announcer could spice it up though&#8230;the repetitive act of trying to hit home runs is a little hard to make thrilling without adding a game context.  In other words, I really think we need to switch from 10-out style to half-inning style and keep score like it&#8217;s a game.  I also think it would be cool if the pitching difficulty steadily increased either from round to round or from inning to inning within each round.  Start with BP speed and gradually rev it up so they have to hit some guy throwing 95. <img src='http://www.proballnw.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Now that would be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Shields</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Shields</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to suggest making the money ball a golf ball, but that could be dangerous for unsuspecting pedestrians a mile away!

:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to suggest making the money ball a golf ball, but that could be dangerous for unsuspecting pedestrians a mile away!</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.proballnw.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mariner Melee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mariner Melee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get rid of the announcers. I don&#039;t mind the formula so far (been watching the derby since 2003), but I am sick and tired of listening to the dull monotone Joe Morgan and Chris Berman screaming BACK, BACK, BACK, BACK, GONE!

ESPN has horrible broadcasters, how about letting the broadcasters of the home park commentate the derby, or even cycle in some Hall of Fame Broadcasters. I just can&#039;t listen to the guys they have announcing this thing anymore. It&#039;s old it&#039;s stale and it needs to change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get rid of the announcers. I don&#8217;t mind the formula so far (been watching the derby since 2003), but I am sick and tired of listening to the dull monotone Joe Morgan and Chris Berman screaming BACK, BACK, BACK, BACK, GONE!</p>
<p>ESPN has horrible broadcasters, how about letting the broadcasters of the home park commentate the derby, or even cycle in some Hall of Fame Broadcasters. I just can&#8217;t listen to the guys they have announcing this thing anymore. It&#8217;s old it&#8217;s stale and it needs to change.</p>
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		<title>By: SABR Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>SABR Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t the 3-point shooting contest in the NBA all-star game have the concept of the &quot;money ball&quot;?  If you want to add some fun to the HR derby, you could have one money ball per half inning that counts for 2 runs instead of one...or that wins a cash prize for someone randomly drawn from the crowd if the player homers on it or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t the 3-point shooting contest in the NBA all-star game have the concept of the &#8220;money ball&#8221;?  If you want to add some fun to the HR derby, you could have one money ball per half inning that counts for 2 runs instead of one&#8230;or that wins a cash prize for someone randomly drawn from the crowd if the player homers on it or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Shires</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dustin Shires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like SABR Matt&#039;s tournament structure idea, along with incentives as you win rounds. That&#039;s a good idea.</description>
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		<title>By: SABR Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.proballnw.com/07-2009/discussion-improving-the-hr-derby/comment-page-1/#comment-6244</link>
		<dc:creator>SABR Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want to fix the HR derby...add a sense of jeopardy and a baseball game like mentality.  The ORIGINAL Home run hitting contest back in the 50s paired two of the best power hitters in a baseball game format where they had three outs at a time (like an inning) to hit home runs and they kept score like it was a big league game.  At the end of a 6 inning contest, the winner would get a prize (these days that could be something like $10,000).  Now the HR Derby format for the ASG could be a tournament structure.  Pair two guys off from the AL...winner gets $5,000 and a seat in the next round...do the same for the NL guys.  Second round, the prize goes up to $10,000.  Then the final round is AL vs. NL, the winner gets $50,000 or a new mercedes M-class or something like that, some lucky fan who is paired with the winning player gets the same prize, and the longest HR of the entire derby gets another prize.

I also agree that we need to encourage long-time power hitters to play, not just this season&#039;s HR leaders.  No one in their right mind thinks of Brandon Inge as a power hitter.  Qualification to get into the derby should not be limited to the ASG rosters and should not be based on half a season worth of stats...the invites should go to players with the most HRs in the last 1.5 seasons (last year&#039;s HR champs should count for something).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want to fix the HR derby&#8230;add a sense of jeopardy and a baseball game like mentality.  The ORIGINAL Home run hitting contest back in the 50s paired two of the best power hitters in a baseball game format where they had three outs at a time (like an inning) to hit home runs and they kept score like it was a big league game.  At the end of a 6 inning contest, the winner would get a prize (these days that could be something like $10,000).  Now the HR Derby format for the ASG could be a tournament structure.  Pair two guys off from the AL&#8230;winner gets $5,000 and a seat in the next round&#8230;do the same for the NL guys.  Second round, the prize goes up to $10,000.  Then the final round is AL vs. NL, the winner gets $50,000 or a new mercedes M-class or something like that, some lucky fan who is paired with the winning player gets the same prize, and the longest HR of the entire derby gets another prize.</p>
<p>I also agree that we need to encourage long-time power hitters to play, not just this season&#8217;s HR leaders.  No one in their right mind thinks of Brandon Inge as a power hitter.  Qualification to get into the derby should not be limited to the ASG rosters and should not be based on half a season worth of stats&#8230;the invites should go to players with the most HRs in the last 1.5 seasons (last year&#8217;s HR champs should count for something).</p>
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		<title>By: Dustin Shires</title>
		<link>http://www.proballnw.com/07-2009/discussion-improving-the-hr-derby/comment-page-1/#comment-6243</link>
		<dc:creator>Dustin Shires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the idea of bringing up a top minor league power name, and having him swing with the big boys. I also like the idea of longest home run. The &quot;most home runs&quot; format is a joke. Josh Hamilton hits 28 in the first round last year and that total gets snubbed for the final round? That&#039;s a horrible way to go about it.

The Brandon Inge&#039;s and Joe Mauer&#039;s of the world aren&#039;t Home Run Derby material. Fine hitters, moreso Mauer than Inge, but neither have that light-tower power that it&#039;s fun to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea of bringing up a top minor league power name, and having him swing with the big boys. I also like the idea of longest home run. The &#8220;most home runs&#8221; format is a joke. Josh Hamilton hits 28 in the first round last year and that total gets snubbed for the final round? That&#8217;s a horrible way to go about it.</p>
<p>The Brandon Inge&#8217;s and Joe Mauer&#8217;s of the world aren&#8217;t Home Run Derby material. Fine hitters, moreso Mauer than Inge, but neither have that light-tower power that it&#8217;s fun to see.</p>
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