Comments on: Branyan’s Mariner Outlook http://www.proballnw.com/08-2009/branyans-mariner-outlook/ ESPN-affiliated Seattle Mariners blog Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:50:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Brandon http://www.proballnw.com/08-2009/branyans-mariner-outlook/comment-page-1/#comment-6458 Brandon Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:41:17 +0000 http://www.proballnw.com/?p=2026#comment-6458 I would never argue that LaHair is better than Carp. I was just shocked to see those numbers from LaHair. I would have expected worse.. I would never argue that LaHair is better than Carp. I was just shocked to see those numbers from LaHair. I would have expected worse..

]]> By: moethedog http://www.proballnw.com/08-2009/branyans-mariner-outlook/comment-page-1/#comment-6457 moethedog Fri, 14 Aug 2009 00:13:05 +0000 http://www.proballnw.com/?p=2026#comment-6457 Lahair has an OPS of .902 at Tacoma this year. That is better than Carp. But Lahair is in his third full year at the AAA level (and had half a season before that)....and is 26 years old. He has improved his OPS numbers the past two years at Tacoma. But not many guys, I think, suddenly make the leap from AAA to the majors and then become very productive at 26. Carp is in his first year at that level..and is 23. More of an upside in my view...lots more. Keith Lahair has an OPS of .902 at Tacoma this year. That is better than Carp. But Lahair is in his third full year at the AAA level (and had half a season before that)….and is 26 years old.

He has improved his OPS numbers the past two years at Tacoma.

But not many guys, I think, suddenly make the leap from AAA to the majors and then become very productive at 26.

Carp is in his first year at that level..and is 23. More of an upside in my view…lots more.

Keith

]]> By: Brandon http://www.proballnw.com/08-2009/branyans-mariner-outlook/comment-page-1/#comment-6456 Brandon Thu, 13 Aug 2009 23:47:56 +0000 http://www.proballnw.com/?p=2026#comment-6456 Bryan Lahair..I looked up his numbers not too long ago, and if i remember correctly, he's been killing the ball in AAA. Did he do that last year too? Bryan Lahair..I looked up his numbers not too long ago, and if i remember correctly, he’s been killing the ball in AAA. Did he do that last year too?

]]> By: Jon Shields http://www.proballnw.com/08-2009/branyans-mariner-outlook/comment-page-1/#comment-6455 Jon Shields Thu, 13 Aug 2009 21:42:20 +0000 http://www.proballnw.com/?p=2026#comment-6455 Lyle Overbay without the glove is a decent first baseman, but by no means a long term solution. Overbay in his best seasons is a 2-2.5 WAR player. That's obviously an asset, but not considering that first basemen are usually counted on to carry an offense. Branyan is having a better year than Overbay. Overbay walks more and hits for a better average, but Branyan is outslugging him in the tougher league. I'd be okay with Carp in the short term, but unless he dramatically changes his player profile the team will want to upgrade at some point. I think of Carp as a ~1.5-2 WAR player. This year Overbay figures to be between 2-2.5. Branyan looks like he'll be about a 3 this year. Ideally, I want a guy at 1B that will consistently be between 2.5-4, especially if you're not getting much offense from other infield spots. Lyle Overbay without the glove is a decent first baseman, but by no means a long term solution. Overbay in his best seasons is a 2-2.5 WAR player. That’s obviously an asset, but not considering that first basemen are usually counted on to carry an offense.

Branyan is having a better year than Overbay. Overbay walks more and hits for a better average, but Branyan is outslugging him in the tougher league.

I’d be okay with Carp in the short term, but unless he dramatically changes his player profile the team will want to upgrade at some point.

I think of Carp as a ~1.5-2 WAR player. This year Overbay figures to be between 2-2.5. Branyan looks like he’ll be about a 3 this year. Ideally, I want a guy at 1B that will consistently be between 2.5-4, especially if you’re not getting much offense from other infield spots.

]]> By: moethedog http://www.proballnw.com/08-2009/branyans-mariner-outlook/comment-page-1/#comment-6454 moethedog Thu, 13 Aug 2009 20:40:58 +0000 http://www.proballnw.com/?p=2026#comment-6454 If Mike Carp is Lyle Overbay.....that ain't bad. His best years show a .300-.312 BA and OPB of .370-.390 and Slugging pushing .500. That's no worse than Branyan's year this year, and you're willing to give him $10M. If Carp is Overbay then he's in Branyan's class. If Carp is a ..300-.380-.490 hitter-15-20 HR guy(an Overbay) at his best then he compares favorably to Mariner 1B over the past 16 years.Tino Martinez in '95 and Sexson in '05 had better years. Sorrento in '96 & '97, Segui in '98, Olerun in '01 &'02, and Sexson in '05 had numbers more or less comparable...and nobody thought they were slouches. Konerko, Garko, Billy Butler and Overbay, himself, are having that type of year, this year. Until we sign Teixeira (who has better power..but the other numbers are comparable this year)...you can live and flourish with that. Call Carp up. Give him the bat. Keith If Mike Carp is Lyle Overbay…..that ain’t bad. His best years show a .300-.312 BA and OPB of .370-.390 and Slugging pushing .500. That’s no worse than Branyan’s year this year, and you’re willing to give him $10M. If Carp is Overbay then he’s in Branyan’s class.

If Carp is a ..300-.380-.490 hitter-15-20 HR guy(an Overbay) at his best then he compares favorably to Mariner 1B over the past 16 years.Tino Martinez in ’95 and Sexson in ’05 had better years. Sorrento in ’96 & ’97, Segui in ’98, Olerun in ’01 &’02, and Sexson in ’05 had numbers more or less comparable…and nobody thought they were slouches.

Konerko, Garko, Billy Butler and Overbay, himself, are having that type of year, this year.

Until we sign Teixeira (who has better power..but the other numbers are comparable this year)…you can live and flourish with that.

Call Carp up. Give him the bat.

Keith

]]> By: brownie12 http://www.proballnw.com/08-2009/branyans-mariner-outlook/comment-page-1/#comment-6451 brownie12 Thu, 13 Aug 2009 09:22:01 +0000 http://www.proballnw.com/?p=2026#comment-6451 All those topics sound interesting. How long do you think Felix will be a Mariner will the Mariners give him a big contract and does he want to stay in Seattle? All those topics sound interesting. How long do you think Felix will be a Mariner will the Mariners give him a big contract and does he want to stay in Seattle?

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