Comments on: GM Search Down to Final Four http://www.proballnw.com/10-2008/gm-search-down-to-the-final-four/ a Seattle Mariners blog formerly known as Bleeding Blue and Teal Fri, 30 Jul 2010 09:50:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Slurve http://www.proballnw.com/10-2008/gm-search-down-to-the-final-four/comment-page-1/#comment-3655 Slurve Sun, 19 Oct 2008 06:42:27 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1093#comment-3655 5-tool players are pretty hard to come by or sometimes hidden in the draft. From what I heard Michael Saunders in our system is our 5-tool guy his power isn't quite there yet though. 5-tool players are pretty hard to come by or sometimes hidden in the draft. From what I heard Michael Saunders in our system is our 5-tool guy his power isn’t quite there yet though.

]]> By: Jon Shields http://www.proballnw.com/10-2008/gm-search-down-to-the-final-four/comment-page-1/#comment-3654 Jon Shields Sat, 18 Oct 2008 04:49:36 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1093#comment-3654 I think the point is that any knucklehead can draft a one dimensional slugger with one of their early picks, but it takes a better eye to come up with a 5-tool player. Fielder, Braun and Weeks were first round picks and Hardy was a second rounder, and all notably lack defensive skills. Hart was the only real treasure of those mentioned in the post as he was taken in the 11th round. I think the point is that any knucklehead can draft a one dimensional slugger with one of their early picks, but it takes a better eye to come up with a 5-tool player.

Fielder, Braun and Weeks were first round picks and Hardy was a second rounder, and all notably lack defensive skills. Hart was the only real treasure of those mentioned in the post as he was taken in the 11th round.

]]> By: Mariner Melee http://www.proballnw.com/10-2008/gm-search-down-to-the-final-four/comment-page-1/#comment-3652 Mariner Melee Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:48:01 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1093#comment-3652 >>Find me the stat that shows that Raul costs the team as much as he creates…>> ...You know I don't mean it like that. Raul Ibanez created 108 runs for the Mariners, even the worst defender ever couldn't cause that many runs through his defense. I'm not really the right person to ask about defensive metrics but if you took a look at how many cause Raul Ibanez single handily won, and how many games he cause us to lose through defense, you might be surprised. Maybe not, maybe I would be surprised. Its not really the point. The point is, big bats are great, they are awesome. But defense is very, very important. I don't want a team full of defensive handicaps with big bats. >>Find me the stat that shows that Raul costs the team as much as he creates…>>

…You know I don’t mean it like that.

Raul Ibanez created 108 runs for the Mariners, even the worst defender ever couldn’t cause that many runs through his defense.

I’m not really the right person to ask about defensive metrics but if you took a look at how many cause Raul Ibanez single handily won, and how many games he cause us to lose through defense, you might be surprised.

Maybe not, maybe I would be surprised. Its not really the point. The point is, big bats are great, they are awesome. But defense is very, very important. I don’t want a team full of defensive handicaps with big bats.

]]> By: Jon Shields http://www.proballnw.com/10-2008/gm-search-down-to-the-final-four/comment-page-1/#comment-3651 Jon Shields Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:39:19 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1093#comment-3651 LaCava DiPotto Ng Zduriencik ..I think. I wouldn't mind any of them, really though. It's still an encouraging final four, even without Woodfork. LaCava
DiPotto
Ng
Zduriencik

..I think. I wouldn’t mind any of them, really though. It’s still an encouraging final four, even without Woodfork.

]]> By: Jon Shields http://www.proballnw.com/10-2008/gm-search-down-to-the-final-four/comment-page-1/#comment-3650 Jon Shields Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:27:25 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1093#comment-3650 Thanks for keeping up on this Dustin.. I'm in Florida getting away from the cold! Thanks for keeping up on this Dustin.. I’m in Florida getting away from the cold!

]]> By: Dustin Shires http://www.proballnw.com/10-2008/gm-search-down-to-the-final-four/comment-page-1/#comment-3649 Dustin Shires Fri, 17 Oct 2008 04:35:01 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1093#comment-3649 Find me the stat that shows that Raul costs the team as much as he creates... Find me the stat that shows that Raul costs the team as much as he creates…

]]> By: Mariner Melee http://www.proballnw.com/10-2008/gm-search-down-to-the-final-four/comment-page-1/#comment-3648 Mariner Melee Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:46:40 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1093#comment-3648 Dustin, This is absolutely true. He is a complete stud when it comes to picking out sluggers, and that is important. But as you can see in the case of Raul Ibanez, that could cost the team as many runs as they create. He is a good candidate. But he is still 4 out of 4. Dustin,

This is absolutely true. He is a complete stud when it comes to picking out sluggers, and that is important. But as you can see in the case of Raul Ibanez, that could cost the team as many runs as they create.

He is a good candidate. But he is still 4 out of 4.

]]> By: Dustin Shires http://www.proballnw.com/10-2008/gm-search-down-to-the-final-four/comment-page-1/#comment-3647 Dustin Shires Fri, 17 Oct 2008 02:02:39 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1093#comment-3647 While Braun and Fielder may not be Gold Glove caliber players, they are also two of the best hitters at their respected positions. Defense means something, but their offensive output is matched by only a select few... While Braun and Fielder may not be Gold Glove caliber players, they are also two of the best hitters at their respected positions. Defense means something, but their offensive output is matched by only a select few…

]]> By: Mariner Melee http://www.proballnw.com/10-2008/gm-search-down-to-the-final-four/comment-page-1/#comment-3646 Mariner Melee Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:35:44 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1093#comment-3646 1.) Ng 2.) LaCava 3.) DiPito 4.) Zduri...Wow Zduriencik would be higher on my list, but I don't think he understands defense. Weeks, Braun and Fielder are anything but good defenders. 1.) Ng
2.) LaCava
3.) DiPito
4.) Zduri…Wow

Zduriencik would be higher on my list, but I don’t think he understands defense. Weeks, Braun and Fielder are anything but good defenders.

]]> By: Dustin Shires http://www.proballnw.com/10-2008/gm-search-down-to-the-final-four/comment-page-1/#comment-3645 Dustin Shires Thu, 16 Oct 2008 21:09:47 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1093#comment-3645 Until I learn more about Zduriencik, I have the exact same order. Until I learn more about Zduriencik, I have the exact same order.

]]> By: Rob T. http://www.proballnw.com/10-2008/gm-search-down-to-the-final-four/comment-page-1/#comment-3644 Rob T. Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:58:38 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1093#comment-3644 1. LaCava 2. Dipoto 3. Zduriencik 4. Ng Thats my order. 1. LaCava
2. Dipoto
3. Zduriencik
4. Ng

Thats my order.

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