Heilman on His Situation; Batista

by ~ December 17th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

From Jim Street:

“I would certainly love an opportunity to start,” Heilman said, “but it looks like we have an abundance of starters right now. We’ll just have to see what happens in Spring Training. I’ve had some success in the bullpen and have learned to be comfortable with it.”

The Mariners currently have right-handers Felix Hernandez, Carlos Silva and Brandon Morrow and left-handers Erik Bedard, Jarrod Washburn and Ryan Rowland-Smith penciled in as potential starters.

Heilman would make it seven candidates for five slots.

“If I can’t start, then closing would be the next-best thing,” Heilman said.

The final decision will be made by manager Don Wakamatsu and pitching coach Rick Adair, with plenty of input from general manager Jack Zduriencik.

“I wouldn’t discount him starting, but as of right now, we have to look to see what we do at the other [relief] positions,” Wakamatsu said. “But he has closing experience.”

With Putz going to the Mets in the trade, the Mariners must find someone to hand the ball to with a lead in the final inning, and Heilman is one of the possibilities. He’s 9-for-25 in save situations, but only a few of them were in the final inning of a game.

Wakamatsu said Heilman, Miguel Batista and Mark Lowe are the primary closing candidates at the moment, but the manager believes things will sort themselves out during Spring Training.

Some of the New York fans and media have painted Heilman as a crybaby who demanded to be traded somewhere that he could start.  Sure, he wants to start, but it would be idiotic to not accept a chance to be a closer, which is the second best way to earn a big paycheck in free agency.  I don’t think Heilman will be a problem in Seattle.

I also agree with Wakamatsu’s top three closing candidates.  I’ve written that I’d be happy with either Lowe or Heilman in the closer’s role for 2009, but haven’t talked much about Batista.

We’ve all come to hate Batista and his albatross of a contract, but closing might be a decent fit for him in 2009 for a couple of reasons.

One, he pitched much better in relief last season than as a starter, limiting hitters to a .202 batting average when coming out of the ‘pen compared to .316 as a starter.  Batista is the type of guy whose stuff plays up as a reliever, and that was illustrated in part by the rise in strikeouts (~12% as starter, ~18% as reliever).  If you want to go the experience route, Batista also has 38 career saves, and was the Blue Jays’ closer in 2005.

Two, pitching him in high leverage situations may be the only way to move him this season.  If Seattle uses him as a middle reliever or for mop up duty, no one is going to want him come July.  If he proves he can be an adequate back-end reliever, he has some value.

That said, Seattle doesn’t really have to move him at all.  His contract is expiring at season’s end anyway, so it’s really only a matter of saving $4-5M dollars, which would be great, but it’s not the same as trying to dump Jarrod Washburn last summer.  However, if Seattle could get even a fringe prospect in return for Batista, that could be considered a victory in my opinion.


  • The Kid

    I am not a fan of the thought of Heilman as the closer. As I said, if he had the stuff, the Mets would not have been looking for Krod or Putz or both to clean up the end of the game situation. Living in New York, I had witnessed firsthand his failures and the fans gripes about him. He could not handle the tight situations, especially with the pressure of New York. I feel we gave up too much in Putz and Green, to only get back Gutierrez from the Indians. I still feel Big Z should explore the options on Street or possibly just dealing Heilman for something he sees fit. That being said, Baldelli would be a good fit, especially switching off with Adam Dunn or “The Kid” Ken Griffey Jr…?
    Bottom line= we need pitching, different from what we have.

  • section331

    Unless someting DRASTIC happens, if they put Batista in ANY sort of emergency situation, I will run down there and choke someone myself!

  • http://bleedingblueandteal.com Jon Shields

    A change of scenery can do a world of difference sometimes. I’ve never said Heilman would be a great closer, but I am all for giving him a shot. If he doesn’t work out, in steps Batista. If Batista doesn’t work out, in steps Lowe.

    With the cost of closers, I do not feel like we need to be looking for someone that is “established.” Right now, we’re not contending for anything. I feel like legitimate closers are only needed for sure-fire contenders, and even that’s a push. A well managed bullpen can do fine without a defined closer (see: Rays whenever Percival was injured).

    Even if we manage to get one of the big DH bats (Dunn, Bradley, Abreu), we’re still not “sure-fire contenders.” We have a great chance in a potentially weak AL West, but not good enough to justify the need to spend for a closer.. maybe next year.

    As I’ve said before, if Heilman or Lowe manage to establish themselves as closers, then we’ve got either a good closer or a nice trading chip.

    Anyway, I think the D-Backs have might have emerged as a potential suitor for Heilman or Washburn, or both. They’ve been thought to have interest in Yuni as a possible 2B, as well.

  • http://myspace.com/tr1ckz pmbaseball7

    If we were to deal Heilman, Washburn, and Yuni to the D-Backs who could we expect to get in return?

  • Kevin F

    Where did you get the information on the D-Backs wanting Yuni to play 2B? That’s one I haven’t heard of yet.

    And really… I don’t have a problem with the three pitcher named to have a chance to duke it out in spring training for the closers job. I’d prefer to have Lowe there myself… but let them go at it during spring training. If indeed Heilman is still on the roster.

    Also, say the Arizona would be willing to take Washburn, Yuni or Heilman… or any combination thereof… who is ‘rumored’ to be coming this way in return?

  • http://bleedingblueandteal.com/ Rob T.

    Hey Kevin, welcome aboard. The Yuni rumor was about a month ago where the Dbacks were showing some interest in Yuni but there hasnt been anything new on that since then.

  • Kevin F

    Hi Rob, thanks.

    You know I’ve been visiting for some time now, reading the stories and the comments. I like different perspectives, that’s why I visit the forum, uss Mariner, Prospect Insider among others and now I check in here daily too.

    Keep up the good work guys… it’s appreciated.

  • http://bleedingblueandteal.com Jon Shields

    Thanks Kev. I’m with you in that I’d like to see Lowe get the first crack at it, but I think the steeper paychecks to Heilman and Batista will push them to the front of the line.

  • BoiseM

    I think they totally screwed up Lowe last year coming off injury with all that hot seat BS…he should have stayed down in Tacoma. If he regains control and movement on hi fastball then I think he’s the front runner. Someone will emerge, you never really know who’s going to be your closer until you put him in that role. Did JJ ever work with Lowe on the splitter I wonder?

    My concern with the BP this season is the gaping hole we had when Sherril was dealt. Is this Vargas kid we picked up going to be that guy. Jimenez surely isn’t. Also, don’t underestimate the job Green did for us last year.

  • http://bleedingblueandteal.com Jon Shields

    They’re hoping Corcoran fills Green’s shoes, and he certainly can as he can keep the walks down. As far as Sherrill and the LOOGY role, internally they’d probably go with some combination of Thomas, Vargas or Lugo. I’d still like them to go and get someone (*cough Shouse *cough)