Comments on: Orlando Hudson http://www.proballnw.com/12-2008/orlando-hudson/ ESPN-affiliated Seattle Mariners blog Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Seattlenhl2009 http://www.proballnw.com/12-2008/orlando-hudson/comment-page-1/#comment-5082 Seattlenhl2009 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:13:46 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1273#comment-5082 I hope Orlando is still a FA because the Ms are waiting to see how the Griffey situation settles. If Griffey goes to ATL, the Ms must sign Orlando to a three year deal. It will put them up there with Oakland and Anaheim. I hope Orlando is still a FA because the Ms are waiting to see how the Griffey situation settles. If Griffey goes to ATL, the Ms must sign Orlando to a three year deal. It will put them up there with Oakland and Anaheim.

]]> By: pmbaseball7 http://www.proballnw.com/12-2008/orlando-hudson/comment-page-1/#comment-4177 pmbaseball7 Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:28:32 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1273#comment-4177 Thanks I wasn't to sure if that was true or not. Thanks I wasn’t to sure if that was true or not.

]]> By: Jon Shields http://www.proballnw.com/12-2008/orlando-hudson/comment-page-1/#comment-4175 Jon Shields Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:48:25 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1273#comment-4175 I'm assuming the "he who must not be named" you're referring to is Bill Bavasi, but that deal was made above his head. Bavasi didn't want to extend Johjima. That was all Yamauchi/Nintendo. Yamauchi/Nintendo is looking like they're about ready to cut ties with the Mariners in the next year or two, and they were looking to "take care" of Johjima before they got out. We have a post or two back in the archives. Feel free to use the search function and take a look. I’m assuming the “he who must not be named” you’re referring to is Bill Bavasi, but that deal was made above his head. Bavasi didn’t want to extend Johjima. That was all Yamauchi/Nintendo.

Yamauchi/Nintendo is looking like they’re about ready to cut ties with the Mariners in the next year or two, and they were looking to “take care” of Johjima before they got out.

We have a post or two back in the archives. Feel free to use the search function and take a look.

]]> By: pmbaseball7 http://www.proballnw.com/12-2008/orlando-hudson/comment-page-1/#comment-4174 pmbaseball7 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 22:43:40 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1273#comment-4174 I am still baffled from why he who must not be named gave Johjima three more years. I am still baffled from why he who must not be named gave Johjima three more years.

]]> By: Jon Shields http://www.proballnw.com/12-2008/orlando-hudson/comment-page-1/#comment-4173 Jon Shields Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:56:22 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1273#comment-4173 RE: Clement's value Here's a watered down rundown of the value debate with Clement: The only reason Clement was taken so high in the draft is that it's very difficult to find left-handed power hitting catchers. How many will there be in the bigs next year? Off the top of my head, only Brian McCann and Matt Wieters (switch) come to mind. There are surely others, but those are the most high-profile ones that I can think of on the spot. Clement's expected offensive output from the catcher position is an amazing boost from a spot that is right up there with SS as positions where offense is typically abandoned. That said, as a 1B/DH, Clement's potential output is only about average for those positions. So basically, if Clement is moved it would be a wasted draft pick. All said, how much choice does Seattle really have? Kenji is locked up for 3 more years, Rob Johnson is a solid game caller/defensive backstop, and Adam Moore looks to be a better all around player than CLement. Someone has to be moved. So then the topic of whether or not to move CLement. Right now, he can still be shopped as a catcher with left handed pop. But as soon as he's moved out of the position permanently, that value is gone. Personally, I would like Clement to be the primary backstop this season, getting at least 100 games behind the plate. I wouldn't be worried about improving Kenji's value right now. Clement's development is more important than Kenji's albatross of a contract. RE: Clement’s value

Here’s a watered down rundown of the value debate with Clement:

The only reason Clement was taken so high in the draft is that it’s very difficult to find left-handed power hitting catchers. How many will there be in the bigs next year? Off the top of my head, only Brian McCann and Matt Wieters (switch) come to mind. There are surely others, but those are the most high-profile ones that I can think of on the spot.

Clement’s expected offensive output from the catcher position is an amazing boost from a spot that is right up there with SS as positions where offense is typically abandoned. That said, as a 1B/DH, Clement’s potential output is only about average for those positions. So basically, if Clement is moved it would be a wasted draft pick.

All said, how much choice does Seattle really have? Kenji is locked up for 3 more years, Rob Johnson is a solid game caller/defensive backstop, and Adam Moore looks to be a better all around player than CLement. Someone has to be moved.

So then the topic of whether or not to move CLement. Right now, he can still be shopped as a catcher with left handed pop. But as soon as he’s moved out of the position permanently, that value is gone.

Personally, I would like Clement to be the primary backstop this season, getting at least 100 games behind the plate. I wouldn’t be worried about improving Kenji’s value right now. Clement’s development is more important than Kenji’s albatross of a contract.

]]> By: pmbaseball7 http://www.proballnw.com/12-2008/orlando-hudson/comment-page-1/#comment-4171 pmbaseball7 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 21:13:43 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1273#comment-4171 Yeah but I think Joe Mauer had a knee surgery or two and they were worried about the same thing and look how he turned out. Anyways O-Dawg would be awesome, the way he plays and the energy he brings to the clubhouse is exactly what the M's need. Yeah but I think Joe Mauer had a knee surgery or two and they were worried about the same thing and look how he turned out. Anyways O-Dawg would be awesome, the way he plays and the energy he brings to the clubhouse is exactly what the M’s need.

]]> By: BoiseM http://www.proballnw.com/12-2008/orlando-hudson/comment-page-1/#comment-4169 BoiseM Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:07:08 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1273#comment-4169 If you can get Hudson at $8mil or so per year...I'd take three years of that. Clement might just prove to be a better hitter if the pressure is taken off from catching. As a guy with two bad knees I can tell you it affects everything physically. Squatting is about the worst thing you can do, yet alone 200 times a day. If you can get Hudson at $8mil or so per year…I’d take three years of that.

Clement might just prove to be a better hitter if the pressure is taken off from catching. As a guy with two bad knees I can tell you it affects everything physically. Squatting is about the worst thing you can do, yet alone 200 times a day.

]]> By: Walrus http://www.proballnw.com/12-2008/orlando-hudson/comment-page-1/#comment-4168 Walrus Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:44:24 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1273#comment-4168 I have the same question with Clement. Per other sites, Clement's value is all over the map...can you add your 2 cents worth to this. I have read that it is too early to trade Clement, because he is still young and developing...and there is virtually nothing better than a young, left handed pwer hitting catcher. Then on the other hand, you read thatClement has had 2 knee surgeries in three years, has over 300AB's and he has yet to show he can hit major league pitching, and his defense will never get to be league average, and worse yet, Clement's minor league numbers do not project Clement to be a good enough hitter to be a 1B / DH type. Help please!!1 I have the same question with Clement.
Per other sites, Clement’s value is all over the map…can you add your 2 cents worth to this.
I have read that it is too early to trade Clement, because he is still young and developing…and there is virtually nothing better than a young, left handed pwer hitting catcher.
Then on the other hand, you read thatClement has had 2 knee surgeries in three years, has over 300AB’s and he has yet to show he can hit major league pitching, and his defense will never get to be league average, and worse yet, Clement’s minor league numbers do not project Clement to be a good enough hitter to be a 1B / DH type.
Help please!!1

]]> By: seatown27 http://www.proballnw.com/12-2008/orlando-hudson/comment-page-1/#comment-4166 seatown27 Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:30:06 +0000 http://www.bleedingblueandteal.com/?p=1273#comment-4166 i would love orlando hudson as well... but then what do we do with clement? let him be the catcher against right handers and kenji against lefties, while branyan DH's? seems someone needs to go in order for this to work. i prefer to go the route of trading lopez, and betancourt too while theyre at it. i would love orlando hudson as well… but then what do we do with clement? let him be the catcher against right handers and kenji against lefties, while branyan DH’s? seems someone needs to go in order for this to work. i prefer to go the route of trading lopez, and betancourt too while theyre at it.

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